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Jack (Monday, 06 August 2018 03:54)
Ref # 19
From your description of the event, I would say that the other player was just too impatient! He should have waited until you had reached your ball to mark and lift it. If you were playing a match, I
would have expected him to give you the putt!!
There are two Rules involved here. Rule 18-5 reads "If a ball in play and at rest is moved by another ball in motion after a stroke, the moved ball must be replaced." which means you have to replace
your ball on the lip of the hole.
But then Rule 19-5a reads "If a player’s ball in motion after a stroke is deflected or stopped by a ball in play
and at rest, the player must play his ball as it lies." As his ball went into the hole he has finished the hole with that last stroke. As he played from off the green, there are no penalties to
Finally, under Rule 22-1a, you could have requested that the other player waits as you wish to lift your ball. If he ignored that request, he would have been penalised 2-strokes or
Thanks Pat - an interesting situation.
Pat (Friday, 03 August 2018 11:43)
In a fourball match. I chipped stone dead. I was heading up to mark the ball as it was on the lip but the other player chipped on as I was approaching my ball. His ball hit mine and went in. Was he
wrong to play or just bad etiquette
Jack (Sunday, 06 May 2018 17:50)
The answer to your question lies in Rule 19, but I need to know if you were playing Stroke play or Match play?
In Stroke play, Rule 19-1 applies. "If a player's ball in motion is accidentally deflected or stopped by any outside agency, it is a rub of the green, there is no penalty and the ball must be played
as it lies."
("Outside agency" includes another player, etc.)
In Match play Rule 19-3 applies. "If a player’s ball is accidentally deflected or stopped by an opponent, his caddie or his equipment, there is no penalty. The player may, before another stroke is
made by either side, cancel the stroke and play a ball, without penalty, as nearly as possible at the spot from which the original ball was last played (Rule 20-5) or he may play the ball as it
As you can see in both cases, no penalty applies. It looks like your friends were right!!
P.S. For full details, read Rule 19. The above is just a brief summary.
Paul wilcock (Friday, 04 May 2018 12:36)
If a ball strikes a player who has just played the shot is this a penalty again the player who played the shot....my friends say it not...but l think it is...could you clarify for me please. Regards
Jack (Saturday, 24 March 2018 22:59)
A ball is out of bounds when it lies out of bounds. Your ball in question finished on the fairway and it is played as it lies. No penalty!!
(See Definition of Out-of-Bounds)
Tim (Friday, 23 March 2018 11:50)
Ball hit out of bounds hits a house and bounces back onto the fairway. Is that OB or play the ball where it lays on the fairway?
Jack (Thursday, 16 November 2017 17:39)
Interesting question Mike.
Under Rule 7-1b it is stated that practice is NOT permitted when two rounds are to be played on CONSECUTIVE DAYS but with your club's competition being the Saturday and Sunday over two weekends, this
does not prevent players playing, or practicing, on the course from the Monday to Friday of the intervening week.
As you admitted Mike, your disqualification was correct but the Friday one was legitimate.
Mike (Sunday, 12 November 2017 14:42)
Our stroke play is held over consecquitive days over two weekends. (4 rounds)
On the Saturday of the second weekend I practiced on the course after play, and was rightly disqualified for the final round.
The were no conditions of play issued by the match committee.
A player practiced on the Friday for the before the final weekend and was not disqualified
Why was he okay please. Thanks
Jack (Thursday, 09 November 2017 02:15)
Yes Alex under Rule 24-2b. In the circumstances you describe it is reasonable for you to play in the direction which allowed you to avoid hitting the tree. When you took your stance which caused you
to stand on the water system deemed as an immovable obstruction, you were entitled to take free relief. After finding your nearest point of relief and dropping within one club length, you may be
lucky enough to play in a better direction - all for no penalty.
Good knowledge of the Rules can be a big advantage!!
Well done. Regards Jack
Alex Rugen (Wednesday, 08 November 2017 01:56)
My ball has come to rest against a tree. The tree is preventing me from hitting a shot towards the green and the only shot I feel that I can play is backwards to try and get my ball back on to the
fairway. If I take this shot I will be standing on a water irrigation pipe. The local rules state that the entire water system is deemed an immovable obstruction. Can I have a free drop away from the
Jack (Friday, 19 May 2017 23:14)
Sorry about the delay in replying to your query Kaye. The website did not advise me!!
You did not say whether your Foursomes were Match play or Stroke play, so I will cover both.
In Matchplay, if a player plays a wrong ball the penalty is Loss-of-Hole.(Rule 15-3a). That applies only to the hole being played.
In Stroke play, the penalty is 2-strokes (Rule 15-3b) and the side must play a correct ball from the same spot. This error must be corrected BEFORE making a stroke from the next tee or the side is
disqualified (Rule 29-3)
The second part of your question makes me think you were playing Stroke play. If you are in this situation you should apply Rule 3-3, This allows you (and your foursomes partner) to play a second
ball and advise which one you wants to count if the Rules permit. You then advise the committee before signing your card at the end of the round.
Ask me again Kaye if you need any more information.
Kaye (Saturday, 06 May 2017 19:18)
A pair playing in a foursomes
Player 2 played the second shot and played the wrong ball. None of the group knew the rules but one very vocal player was telling them they were disqualified!
What do you do if you get in this situation and there is no-one handy to give you a ruling - obviously you can't stay there but if you tee off at the next hole without resolving the issue you are
Jack (Friday, 09 December 2016 19:23)
Good question Bonny, but the fact that the cable was out of bounds means NO RELIEF. The cable would come under the definition of "Obstructions" and in the Rules this reads as follows:-
"An obstruction is anything artificial, including the artificial surfaces and sides of roads and paths and manufactured ice, except:
a. Objects defining out of bounds, such as walls, fences, stakes and railings;
b. Any part of an immovable artificial object that is out of bounds; "
Under Rule 24-2 aplayer can obtain relief from an immovable obstruction, but, as mentioned above, not if it is out of bounds,.
Hope this answers the question for you.
Bonny (Thursday, 08 December 2016 10:13)
My opponent's ball landed just next to the OB line marked with stakes. Just beyond this line was a cable supporting an electric pole. It was beyond the OB line and outside the course (It did not mark
the OB line). His back swing was interfered by the cable. We had a great discussion, but came to no conclusion. One view was that he deserved relief as his swing was interfered by an immovable
obstruction. The other view was that since the obstruction was outside the course, no relief was permitted. Later I searched the net but found nothing. What could be the ruling?
Jack (Tuesday, 07 June 2016 19:49)
Ref # 5
This is a very interesting question, especially regarding the contact lenses when obviously thousands of golfers wear them!!
However, the golfer in question should be taking a penalty each time she lifts her ball from a bunker. Whilst highly unusual you would DROP using the procedure and penalty described in
All scores added to date have been unacceptable, as defined in the handicap manual, and when a player ignores one or more Rules of Golf and fails to post an adjusted hole score or fails to record the
appropriate penalty for a breach of a rule - Rule 6-6b - the penalty is disqualification.
Hope this helps Mary. (I have checked this reply with NZ Golf as it was a little strange!!)
Mary (Saturday, 04 June 2016 09:56)
A golfer habitually removes her ball from the sand bunkers and places it (not drops) it in the grass, supposedly because sand may get in her eyes. Said golfer had eye surgery well over a year ago and
the surgery was not a success and requires her to wear contacts. Not an excuse, says I. What concerns me is the fact that she posts her score for handicapping purposes without adding penalty
stroke(s) for each time she does this during a round. What is the rule pertaining to this? Thanks!!
Jack (Monday, 21 March 2016 04:14)
Ref # 3
Yes Ron, you are correct. Player B receives the penalty.
Ron (Sunday, 20 March 2016 05:17)
None of the 7 listed situations applied. As I understand the team to consist of 4 partners, if one of the partners accidentally moves a ball belonging to any one of the other 3 partners, then it is
the owner of the moved ball who incurs the penalty; ie in my original scenario player B incurs the penalty - correct?
Jack (Sunday, 20 March 2016 03:20)
Ref # 1
This is covered in Rule 18 "Ball at Rest Moved"
18-2. By Player, Partner, Caddie or Equipment - and it covers several instances where the ball might be moved and no penalty applies, however I need more detail to rule if a penalty applies in this
Go to page 90 in the "Rules of Golf" and read the seven listed situations and if none applies to your question, then, because he replaced the ball, a 1-stroke penalty is incurred by the player.
This is one of the times you need a Rule book in your golf bag Ron!
Ron (Saturday, 19 March 2016 15:47)
Team of 4 players A, B, C, D playing best 3 scores per hole. Player A accidentally moves ball of player B. Player B replaces ball prior to playing his next stroke. Which (if any) player incurs a